iam planning to start martial arts but is body building needed?
March 7th, 2010 | by admin |iam 1.86 , 6"2 around 78 kg ,171.9 lb
iam planning to bulk uo some mucle for a peroid of 6 months to one year, i did body building before, buti am am not sure about is having muscle mass going to decrease my flexability or not make me a better martial artist, am thinking of"Hoi jeon moo sool" has some jumps and kicks so any ideas ?
Body building is defenetly not needed. it doesnt give musle memory like martial art does
13 Responses to “iam planning to start martial arts but is body building needed?”
By CCC on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
Body building is defenetly not needed. it doesnt give musle memory like martial art does
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By jpenergy@sbcglobal.net on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
body building is not going to help much, two different goals require different methods.
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By TERRY H on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
totally unneccesary. have a go and see if you like it/martial art of your choice
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45 years in martial arts
By wannabefree on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
Its not going to hurt to do both
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By Andy on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
No, body building just makes strong muscle which is only any good for lifting weights. it is useful if u do a style with alot of grappling though. you will probably find though that you will get alot stronger doing martial arts and it will be usefull for what you do.
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By northcarrlight on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
"It would not hurt to do both" I agree, if you have ever heard of Bruce Lee you will know the amazing physical shape he was in. Just ask any competent body builder about him, I have also put on more muscle from doing martial arts than from lifting weight but that might not work the same for someone else you must keep this in mind
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By kadiss17 on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
Strength helps, I don’t care what anyone says. In most cases, a male martial artist will beat a female in a fight, why? Because he is stronger. Yes, there are exceptions but one cannot deny the advantage of raw strength/power.
In my BJJ class I see stronger guys with less technique beating weaker guys with better technique ( and vice-versa, but the two things are not mutually exclusive) so obviously the strength is a factor.
My advice ( martial artist since 4yrs old) is to do your thing with the weights, your plan (six months) is solid and it will provide a base of strength that will carry over into martial arts.
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By Zenshin Academy on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
I train with all sorts of people and all body types. With my xp in martial art I say a "body building" body is not good. I train with a guy who is soooo big he can’t even bend his arms completely. He always falls back on strenght to execute his technique and as doing so hasn’t progressed in skill. A toned body is good, a muscle massed out body is not.
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By brian b on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
body building is all that is needed
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phil baroni
By Christian B on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
Completely unnecessary and possibly detrimental…Here’s why:
1. Excessive muscle isn’t going to be an advantage in ANY martial art. Martial arts is all about technique which will come through hard work and discipline.
I am a former football player, bodybuilder and powerlifter that benches over 325lbs, squats 550lbs, and deadlifts 600lbs. I still get submitted and thrown in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Judo by guys that have never touched a weight in their life. I rolled with a Korean fellow with a black belt in Judo last week who was half my size and a quarter of my strength. He tossed me with a solid hip toss, gained mount, and submitted me with an arm-bar; all in about 30 seconds.
2. Bodybuilding is not sport specific weight training. It’s sole purpose is to gain size, not to improve athletic performance. Bodybuilding programs don’t train for explosiveness, quickness, agility, or balance; all factors needed in martial arts. Bodybuilding programs can make you slower as well; they don’t stress fast-twitch muscles of the central nervous system. You may gain some size and strength, but you won’t have the explosiveness to move that new-found size/strength around.
When I started doing jump training and Olympic lifts again, my Judo game went through the roof.
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By amentkc on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
Interesting question, what a variety of good answers! Most have merit, here’s my two cents:
I was in martial arts [Karate and Taekwondo] in high school and college while lifting weights. Then I lifted weights several times a week for years without doing any martial arts; now I pretty much do martial arts but only lift weights once a week. Twenty years ago, when I was lifting weights and trying to do martial arts at the same time, I ended up skipping martial arts because I was sore from lifting weights.
It is possible for someone that is very talented, explosive and experienced by beat me in grappling or kickboxing. But, my strength from all of my years of weightlifting has made it so I am able to get away with techniques that aren’t as smooth as some others and still win. I am 6′4" and 250-255 lb., and due to sheer strength in grappling contest can beat people with higher ranks that I and many years more experience when they weigh under 200 lb. At around 200 – 220 lb. it starts to even out somewhat. I can "almost" do the splits due to years of Taekwondo and I don’t think lifting weights impended my flexibility. As others have said, yes, I too have been thrown by shorter people that I outweigh by quite a bit – but you and I are built more for kickboxing than Judo!
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By Prime M on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
I think you need to differentiate between strength training and body building.
Body building is an art of its own, where the builder specifically works on sets of muscles to extreme hypertrophy. It also involves a lot waxing, oiling and posing.
Strength training results in the gaining of bulk but is overall more healthy as you are not reducing your body fat to miniscule levels, not damaging the tissue casing around the muscles, not wearing silly little speedos.
Strength training, like cardio training and form training, outside of the Dojo/Kwoon can only help your Art. Body building and the inheritant damage and loss of flexibility due to massive muscles getting in the way will probably not help.
I’ve been practising martial arts for most of my life and seriously strength training since last summer. It has helped me immensely. Not only am I stronger, but also faster (the tales of bulked up guys being slow is often just a myth). I recover better from training and receive less injuries.
I’ve put on around two and a half stone in this time and am still going (I now weigh over 200lbs) and am still able to do sticky hands/chi sau etc using technique rather than strength. Of course being able to fall back on body weight and strength and power through when technique fails, but it’s part of martial arts to not really on a single method but be flexible enough to win.
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By Fighter1987 on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
by practicing martial arts you will build your body from it in itself. for workout ideas outside of martial arts go to crossfit.com
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